称谓的变迁

Chris wonders about the origins of 爸 and 妈 and their usage in daily life.

The 爹、娘、爷、大、爸、妈 stuff fascinates me as well. Different environment calls for different characters. My take is that it has a lot to do with the class status thingy after liberation: the 非农业户口 (non-agricultural) class and 农业户口(agricultural) class.

Kids growing up as 农业 villagers in the 70’s, at least in my region, I suspect nationally as well, don’t call their parents 爸 and 妈. Instead, they call them whatever parents were called before the Liberation, or even before the first Republic was established in 1911, I suspect. Kids growing up 非农业, commonly viewed as being borne with a silver spoon in their mouths, almost always call their parents 爸 and 妈. In fact, any 农业 children who made a 爸妈 attempt were immediately suspected as “acting white“. In my local dialect, we call them 装洋 or 装洋哄(not sure if the last character is right, or even if there is a character for it).

I’ve always called my parents 大 (first tone. 爷 is also common) and 娘 (kinda between first tone and second tone, mostly first). Husband calls his wife 孩娘. Wife calls hubby 孩爷. I’ve noticed that children born in the 80’s and after, agricultural or not, use 爸妈.

I really want to find out the source of 爸 and 妈. Could they be new characters invented/introduced after the 新文化运动? Or they have always been there but I just don’t know due to my ignorance? I have never seen 爸妈 in what meager amount of 古文 that I’ve read. I looked for a copy of 《说文解字》while in Beijing in August, but didn’t find it in the bookstore I visited. Maybe I should have looked for 《康熙字典》instead.

Above is a slightly edited comment I left at Chris’ backup blog.

14 thoughts on “称谓的变迁”

  1. Thanks for the link. Now I learned something.

    I heard about Zhidao, but this is the first time I saw it being used.

  2. That’s interesting. Does it mean that some sites from mainland are blocked in 宝岛?

    Below is quoted text from the Baidu link.

    首先这是音译过来的
    爸妈作为父母亲的称呼虽然我没多方考证过,不过我敢说并不是民国时候才学西方喊起来的。

    我的根据是《广雅·释亲》里的记载:“爸者,父亲之转。”“妈,母也。”

    而这部《广雅》是三国时魏张揖编撰的,说明起码在那之前就已经有了爸妈的叫法了。

    当年,光绪是叫“亲爸爸”的。因为当时,外国的读法已经传到了中国。我学过德文,里面叫爸爸的就是“papa”,读作“帕帕”,中国人就把这样的叫法说成了“爸爸”。
    满族人叫爸爸叫“阿玛”,叫妈妈叫“额娘”,如果是皇室成员,就在前面加一个“皇”字。
    爹娘是中国传统叫法,在清朝以前,中国的科考制度以文言文为主。辛亥革命以后,洋学渐兴,留学归国的人把爸爸,妈妈这样的称惟带回国内。慢慢的就流行开了。

  3. 非常有趣, 且有启发。 这是我第一次 visit 你的 website, 也是第一次在 visit 一个 website 之后留言。 以后有时间会回访。

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas.

  4. 海东叔叔:您好!
    我是您的族侄.您太棒了!!!呵呵

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